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Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 use of term "802.2 LLC"

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Thu, 02 February 2017 17:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 use of term "802.2 LLC"
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On Feb 2, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 use of term "802.2 LLC"
> 
> Hello IPWAVErs,
> 
> It has been suggested that the term "802.2 LLC" may not be relevant
> because in the next version of the IEEE 802.11 standard the LLC will no
> longer be based on IEEE 802.2.
> 
> As such, I propose the following change:
> 
> old:
>> The IPv6 Networking is layered on top of the IEEE 802.2 Logical-Link
>> Control (LLC) layer; this is itself layered on top of the 802.11p
>> MAC; this layering illustration is similar to that of running IPv6
>> over 802.2    LLC over the 802.11 MAC, or over Ethernet MAC.
> 
> new:
>> The IPv6 Networking is layered on top of an IEEE 802.11 LLC layer;
>> this is itself layered on top of the 802.11 MAC layer; this layering
>> illustration is similar to that of running IPv6 over 802.2 LLC over
>> the IEEE 802.3 (Ethernet) MAC.

I think that talking about Ethernet is causing confusion.  Perhaps it would be more straightforward to say that SNAP [RFC1042] is used to carry the IPv6 Ethertype.

Russ

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