Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 RSU term
François Simon <fygsimon@gmail.com> Tue, 14 February 2017 14:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 RSU term
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In this figure the router would be the item at the right-hand, bottom corner “Backhaul Local Communications”. Fygs From: Michelle Wetterwald [mailto:michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:31 AM To: François Simon <fygsimon@gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 RSU term Hi François, Thank you for sending me this picture, but I cannot see any RSR. I can only see an RSU, which may host an RSR, as I mentioned to Alex in my email below. Can you help me locate the RSR? Thanks, Michelle Michelle Wetterwald michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com <mailto:michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com> ---- Senior expert in networking and telecommunications ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michelle Wetterwald <mlwetterwald@gmail.com <mailto:mlwetterwald@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 12:27 PM Subject: Fwd: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 RSU term To: Michelle Wetterwald <michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com <mailto:michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: François Simon <fygsimon@gmail.com <mailto:fygsimon@gmail.com> > Date: 2017-02-10 17:50 GMT+01:00 Subject: RE: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 RSU term To: Michelle Wetterwald <mlwetterwald@gmail.com <mailto:mlwetterwald@gmail.com> > See one of US FHWA view of RSE. RSR in left-hand bottom corner. fygs From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org> ] On Behalf Of Michelle Wetterwald Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 6:19 AM To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> > Cc: its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 RSU term Hi Alex, Actually, an RSU is generally more than an RSR as it is an ITS station per se and may contain upper (e.g. service or even application) layers. I suggest to keep the definition of RSU in the text, as it is a widely used term, but clarify that an RSR could be one of the components of an RSU. Best regards, Michelle 2017-02-10 11:34 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> >: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-00 RSU term Hello IPWAVErs, We received multiple comments about the RSU term. The strongest issue is that apparently there are conflicts between our assumption of RSU to be a router and FHWA(?) thinking RSU is more like an interface to a router, or something like a master-RSU controlling (slave?) RSUs. Unless FHWA tells us they agree RSU is a router, I will modify the following: Old: 2. Terminology [...] RSU: Road Side Unit. New: RSR: Road Side Router; an IP router equipped with, or connected to, at least one interface that is 802.11 and that is an interface that operates in OCB mode. and substitute RSR for RSU throughout. This old 'RSU' term, now RSR, is absolutely needed in the draft when discussing IP handovers and Mobile IP. Alex _______________________________________________ its mailing list its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its -- Michelle Wetterwald michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com <mailto:michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com> -- Michelle Wetterwald michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com <mailto:michelle.wetterwald@gmail.com>
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