[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for ML-KEM Post-Quantum Key Agreement for TLS 1.3

Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> Wed, 02 April 2025 04:08 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for ML-KEM Post-Quantum Key Agreement for TLS 1.3
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I share the same view as Martin. I also support adoption but we should
be very careful proceeding forward.

On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 at 05:00, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
>
> Like other pure ML-KEM uses, I am OK with adoption, though I might oppose Recommended: Y when it comes to that.  I also share John's concerns about key reuse, but would prefer to litigate that in the working group, rather than during adoption.
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025, at 23:58, Sean Turner wrote:
> > We are continuing with our pre-announced tranche of WG adoption calls;
> > see [0] for more information. This time we are issuing a WG adoption
> > call for the ML-KEM Post-Quantum Key Agreement for TLS 1.3 I-D [1]. If
> > you support adoption and are willing to review and contribute text,
> > please send a message to the list. If you do not support adoption of
> > this draft, please send a message to the list and indicate why. This
> > call will close at 2359 UTC on 15 April 2025.
> >
> > In response to other WG adoption calls, Dan Bernstein pointed out some
> > potential IPR (see [2]), but no IPR disclosure has been made in
> > accordance with BCP 79.  Additional information is provided here; see
> > [3].
> >
> > BCP 79 makes this important point:
> >
> >   (b) The IETF, following normal processes, can decide to use
> >     technology for which IPR disclosures have been made if it decides
> >     that such a use is warranted.
> >
> > WG members can take this information into account during this adoption
> > call to determine if we should adopt these drafts.
> >
> > Reminder:  This call for adoption has nothing to do with picking the
> > mandatory-to-implement cipher suites in TLS.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Joe and Sean
> >
> > [0] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/KMOTm_lE5OIAKG8_chDlRKuav7c/
> > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement/
> > [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/mt4_p95NZv8duZIJvJPdZV90-ZU/
> > [3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spasm/GKFhHfBeCgf8hQQvhUcyOJ6M-kI/
> >
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