Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-yourtchenko-ra-dhcpv6-comparison-00.txt (fwd)

Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com> Wed, 08 January 2014 21:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-yourtchenko-ra-dhcpv6-comparison-00.txt (fwd)
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On Jan 8, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> the multi-million-euro enterprise can continue to do ipv4.  and that's
> what they are doing.  we can stick our heads <fill in> and pretend that
> this is not a festering and embarrassing problem or we can fix it.

Okay, Randy.   You're a smart, articulate guy.   Can you tell us what is missing that we need to add, and in what sense it's missing?   I have yet to hear a clear statement of what the problem is.