Re: [arch-d] possible new IAB programme on Internet resilience

Jared Mauch <> Wed, 01 January 2020 20:48 UTC

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> On Jan 1, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Brian E Carpenter <> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Cherry-picking from your interesing message:
>> What if there winds up being a lack of diversity of paths through the “open” and “public” Internet? What if increasingly traffic winds up traveling through these proprietary global networks (to which you need to pay to connect and through that gain permission to send traffic - and only to that company’s platforms)?
> Is this really new, from a technical viewpoint? It reminds me very much of the early 1990s, when policy based BGP4 routing first became a thing, and acceptable use policies were applied by NSFNET, ESNET, and their equivalents in Europe and Asia. That was all about money, of course, except that it was public money.

Many of us operate networks to meet our business goals. I think the issues that arise from that become relevant if one or more players requires certain networks or those one or two players are damaged or fail catastrophically. 

(Operational note: as we have privatized our own traffic we have found the public carriers no longer have the capability and capacity to handle the traffic if we place it back on their networks).