Re: [DNSOP] reducing the crap going to the root

Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> Sun, 18 December 2016 15:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] reducing the crap going to the root
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> On 18 Dec 2016, at 15:46, Burkov Dmitry <dvburk@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jim,
> but you raise for me another question - if 90% will be served by google,etc - what the real value and role of the roots?

Dima, that’s a question to be answered by people well above our pay grade and we shouldn’t go down that particular rat-hole on this list.

That said, I doubt google get 90% of the Internet's query traffic. But that’s just detail. Whatever the actual number is, it will be substantial.