Re: [hrpc] HRPC recharter

I don’t understand why we want to change this group P name into “policy”.
The more I think about it the less I am convinced. Policy-making and policy
recommendations don’t happen at IRTF. For example, IETF came up with RDAP.
It was at ICANN that we discussed the policy issues surrounding its
implementation. Are we going to do research on implementation of protocols
in this group? Policies that should be in place to implement the protocols?
Or are we assessing protocol implementation and mitigating the adverse
effects?

Somebody mentioned here that “policy” is the tool of the state. True. But
then policy is also used in private settings, by tech companies and IG
organizations. Are we not considering those?

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 8:59 AM John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org> wrote:

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> > On Jan 6, 2023, at 4:33 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
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> > Nobody disputes that human rights concerns are a problem now. What many
> of us have concerns about is how to balance the different and often
> conflicting rights and interests at the time of protocol design.
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> I am fine with the revised charter.
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> (I had hoped that the update would include more focus on protocol research
> topics that would allow us to deliver on these conflicting rights, but it
> appears to take a different approach and presume that such matters are
> unsolvable – and instead work on building “evidence and guidance for policy
> makers on the necessary design tradeoffs that should be made.”   This is a
> tad unfortunate, since we know that policy makers will not engage in the
> hard technical protocol research necessary into solving these problems, and
> this “research group” resigning itself to documenting recommended guidance
> on tradeoffs rather than working on exploring technical solutions for
> protocols nearly assures that some human rights will never be satisfied on
> the Internet.)
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> /John
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> p.s. Disclaimer: my views alone - even ChatGPT is likely to produce better…
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