Re: [hrpc] HRPC recharter

[Abdussalam Baryun <[e-mail]>]

On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 4:10 AM Andrew Sullivan <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> Still employed, still just my opinion.
>
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 11:01:07AM -0500, Mallory Knodel wrote:
>
> >Understood that this is your view. On the other hand, the feedback we
> >are consistently getting in our actual meetings and through our most
> >recent IAB review is that in fact HRPC is contributing and doing well
> >and we don't need to be overwrought in our attempts to do more work.
>
> My reading of the minutes of the IAB meeting from 2022-11-08 is doubtless
> more poorly informed than yours would be, since I wasn't in the meeting.
> Nevertheless, when I read them what I do not see is a lot of encouragement
> of scope changing.  What I read, on the contrary, is some hesitation about
> the wisdom of expanding the scope in this way. The person on the IAB who
> was arguing for that explicit scope expansion is also a chair of this RG
> (i.e. you.  BTW, the minutes aren't linked at
> https://www.iab.org/wiki/index.php/RG_Reviews but are in the main IAB
> minutes pages).
>
> >This is why I want to make very incisive changes to the charter that
> >very slightly expand the work into policy
>
> But this is the concern I was trying to raise in my prior note to the
> list: I don't think the text you have proposed is incisive change or very
> slight expansion.  Instead, if I read it correctly, it appears to turn the
> RG into a (not to say "yet one more") venue where people come together to
> talk "policy" without much in the way of bounds on what is in or out of
> scope or even what kind of policy is involved.  I don't wish to be
> provocative, but I am sceptical that the IRTF needs to reproduce the
> Internet Governance Forum.


I agree totally, and I think separating policy from protocol is best, if a
group wants research in *policy* then open another RG with new charter for
that, and in future we can know how to recharter after we do our tasks but
not now.

Regards
AB