Re: [hrpc] HRPC recharter

[Mallory Knodel <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

On 1/4/23 4:17 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>
>     I see that the proposed charter revises this bullet somewhat to remove
>     the comparison to 6973, but I think it would be good to be clearer in
>     the charter that the intent for the HRPC is not to be some
>     human-rights flavored version of secdir or opsdir. In particular, if
>     guidelines for how to design protocols so that they protect human
>     rights are to have any normative force, they need to come out of the
>     IETF, not the IRTF. And if the intent is to provide something
>     informative, then I think what's needed is something much more like an
>     analysis of problems and a catalog of techniques than guidelines. This
>     is, for instance, what PEARG does.
>
...
>
>     And alternatively if you can point to a place in the charter where
>     this sort of thing appears and is described better than what we have?
>
> I'm sorry,  I don't think I understand that question.

In an effort to keep this conversation specific to the charter text, I 
am wondering if you feel that PEARG's success in analysis of problems 
and a catalog of techniques lies in the way it's charter is written on 
these points? Because this is what I'm seeing in their charter:

> Provide a forum for discussion and analysis of the cryptographic and 
> practical aspects of privacy protocols e.g.
> Analyse dependencies between protocols in the larger Internet 
> ecosystem and understand the privacy implications in a wider context
> Understand why some protocol design efforts have succeeded and other 
> have not
> Formulate better models for analyzing and quantifying privacy risks
> Offer guidance on the use of emerging techniques and new uses of 
> existing ones. 
It does not in fact look that different than ours. I think that 
execution and interest in bringing research to HRPC is what we need to 
focus on to fix much of what is being raised in the conversation, not 
necessarily charter text.

-Mallory

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Mallory Knodel
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