Re: [hrpc] HRPC recharter
farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> Tue, 10 January 2023 17:25 UTC
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From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 12:24:40 -0500
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] HRPC recharter
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Most times, this practice of balancing rights favors the powerful who can quash other people's rights and abuse their power. We can start from debunking some narratives that, for example security and privacy are always conflicting (they are sometimes but sometimes they are not and they are quite aligned). And what do you mean by technical solutions? Technical solutions that address the tradeoffs between rights? Am I getting this right? If so, then I totally disagree, I think you cannot overcome the trade-off with technical solutions. I don't want to misframe this but are backdoors technical solutions? I prefer that policymakers actually understand the technical limitations and the effect of their policies on the Internet and values they want to uphold. P.S. John's disclaimers are always so apt. A genius lawyer must have crafted them. Farzaneh On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 3:18 AM Jens Finkhaeuser <jens@interpeer.io> wrote: > Hi, > > > Nobody disputes that human rights concerns are a problem now. What many > > of us have concerns about is how to balance the different and often > > conflicting rights and interests at the time of protocol design. > > I wasn't quite sure how to parse this comment, and wanted to mull it over. > > So far, the group has focused on considerations documents, which raise the > questions that one has to ask when balancing such things as you mention. I > can't find it in me to see anything concerning about that. This may reveal > conflicts in interests, but that is the entire point of asking questions. > It's how you know that more work is needed - or a comment on why something > can't be done in the design. > > I'm not sure what is concerning here. > > Jens > _______________________________________________ > hrpc mailing list > hrpc@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc >
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