Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[e-mail]>]

Dear Secretariat,

Speaking as sergeant-at-arms, please make sure to restrict posting rights of Mr. Masataka Ohta for the next 2 months, until 11th August, noon CET.

Thanks!

Regards,
Jordi


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Masataka Ohta <[e-mail]>
Responder a: <[e-mail]>
Fecha: viernes, 10 de junio de 2016, 13:28
Para: Jordi Palet Martinez <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Asunto: Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]

>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>
>> I think is very clear: Is fine to disagree with LGTBQ rights, is fine
>> to express it, but “I don’t value their families”, in my opinion is
>> not respectful in the context of this list and the RFC3005.
>
>If it were so very clear, cloud you quote the relevant section
>of rfc3005?
>
>> See also previous email from Jari, related to RFC 7154.
>
>And, of rfc7154.
>
>At least, the following statement in the rfc:
>
>    2.  Guidelines for Conduct
>    1. IETF participants extend respect and courtesy to their colleagues
>       at all times.
>
>has nothing to do with families of colleagues.
>
>As IETF is not an organization to promote family relationships but is
>a technical body, we are indifferent to families of colleagues.
>
>Remember, my opinion is seconded by [e-mail].
>
>> Moreover, this is becoming out off topic, as this debate was related
>> to the Singapore venue,
>
>I'm afraid that IETF list is for general discussion that nothing
>related to IETF can be off topic.
>
>And, even if it were, your statement in the previous mail:
>
> > If you keep going thru this path, I will have no other way that
> > restricting your posting rights, so please, be respectful to all.
>
>is too strong as a statement against off topic mails.
>
> > and now you’re starting to use that as a
>> general personal attack to LGTBQ and their families and the rest of
>> the IETF community that respect those rights.
>
>I'm afraid you are saying that you are culturally heavily biased
>for LGBT.
>
> > general personal attack to LGTBQ and their families and the rest of
> > the IETF community that respect those rights.
>
>I'm afraid it is impossible to make "personal attack" "general".
>
>But, in case I misunderstand something, could you quote relevant part
>of my previous mails related to it?
>
>							Masataka Ohta
>