Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]
Andrew Allen <aallen@blackberry.com> Sat, 11 June 2016 15:20 UTC
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From: Andrew Allen <aallen@blackberry.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]
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And that is a very important distinction because if they did in fact criminalize someone's status and not just their behavior then we could not meet there. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Mikael Abrahamsson Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 13:38 To: Melinda Shore Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective] On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Melinda Shore wrote: > For the purpose of clarity, and in hopes that we can stick to the facts > (to the extent they're known), the issue with Singapore is not that they > do not recognize same-sex marriage but that they have laws criminalizing > same-sex relationships. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Singapore they criminalize "male same-sex sexual activity". I don't know if that's what you mean by "relationships", but in the strict sense of the word, Singapore doesn't criminalize the actual relationship. It doesn't even criminalize "same-sex sexual activity". It criminalizes "MALE same-sex sexual activity". Since you said "for the purpose of clarity" and "stick to the facts", I thought this needed to be clarified. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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