Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]

Andrew Allen <aallen@blackberry.com> Sat, 11 June 2016 15:20 UTC

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From: Andrew Allen <aallen@blackberry.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]
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And that is a very important distinction because if they did in fact criminalize someone's status and not just their behavior then we could not meet there.


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From: Mikael Abrahamsson
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 13:38
To: Melinda Shore
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Subject: Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]


On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Melinda Shore wrote:

> For the purpose of clarity, and in hopes that we can stick to the facts
> (to the extent they're known), the issue with Singapore is not that they
> do not recognize same-sex marriage but that they have laws criminalizing
> same-sex relationships.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Singapore they
criminalize "male same-sex sexual activity".

I don't know if that's what you mean by "relationships", but in the strict
sense of the word, Singapore doesn't criminalize the actual relationship.
It doesn't even criminalize "same-sex sexual activity". It criminalizes
"MALE same-sex sexual activity".

Since you said "for the purpose of clarity" and "stick to the facts", I
thought this needed to be clarified.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se