Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]

[Masataka Ohta <[e-mail]>]

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

> I think is very clear: Is fine to disagree with LGTBQ rights, is fine
> to express it, but “I don’t value their families”, in my opinion is
> not respectful in the context of this list and the RFC3005.

If it were so very clear, cloud you quote the relevant section
of rfc3005?

> See also previous email from Jari, related to RFC 7154.

And, of rfc7154.

At least, the following statement in the rfc:

    2.  Guidelines for Conduct
    1. IETF participants extend respect and courtesy to their colleagues
       at all times.

has nothing to do with families of colleagues.

As IETF is not an organization to promote family relationships but is
a technical body, we are indifferent to families of colleagues.

Remember, my opinion is seconded by [e-mail].

> Moreover, this is becoming out off topic, as this debate was related
> to the Singapore venue,

I'm afraid that IETF list is for general discussion that nothing
related to IETF can be off topic.

And, even if it were, your statement in the previous mail:

 > If you keep going thru this path, I will have no other way that
 > restricting your posting rights, so please, be respectful to all.

is too strong as a statement against off topic mails.

 > and now you’re starting to use that as a
> general personal attack to LGTBQ and their families and the rest of
> the IETF community that respect those rights.

I'm afraid you are saying that you are culturally heavily biased
for LGBT.

 > general personal attack to LGTBQ and their families and the rest of
 > the IETF community that respect those rights.

I'm afraid it is impossible to make "personal attack" "general".

But, in case I misunderstand something, could you quote relevant part
of my previous mails related to it?

							Masataka Ohta