Re: Value and respect [Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective]

[Masataka Ohta <[e-mail]>]

Melinda Shore wrote:

> For the purpose of clarity, and in hopes that we can
> stick to the facts (to the extent they're known), the
> issue with Singapore is not that they do not recognize
> same-sex marriage but that they have laws criminalizing
> same-sex relationships.

And, I said from the beginning that:

: > This map reflects the current situation worldwide:
: >  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_same-sex_marriage#/media/File:World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg

: The map implies that there is no international consensus that same sex
: marriage is/were basic human right and that there are a lot of countries
: where same sex marriage is considered to be criminally immoral.

: Situation is not so different from legitimacy on smoking marijuana.

Same sex marriage is NOT an internationally agreed basic human right
and, as such, we must value and respect culture to ban or damn LGBT.

> To the extent that there are conditions that exclude
> people (or make it more difficult for them) on the basis
> of matters unrelated to technical chops, we fall short
> of the goal of being both open and meritocratic.

As has been already discussed so many times, US, not issuing VISA
for Chinese in time so many times, must be excluded, then.

A proper policy, instead, is to avoid places where internationally
agreed basic human rights are restricted.

For the internationally (mostly, as some country reserve to ratify
some part of it) agreed standard on basic human rights to be used
by international bodies such as IETF, see:

	The International Bill of Human Rights
	http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publications/FactSheet2Rev.1en.pdf

It says:

	promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for
	fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race,
	sex, language or religion

So, respect religions against LGBT.

						Masataka Ohta