Re: IETF in July

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Mon, 23 March 2020 18:45 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: IETF in July
Thread-Topic: IETF in July
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>    I think we need to be optimistic and that the effort being done by many researchers all over the world will provide results in a record time.
  
No.  We need to be realistic.  Please stop.