Re: IETF in July
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Sun, 22 March 2020 22:23 UTC
Return-Path: <fgont@si6networks.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8193A0937 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 15:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.559
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.559 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_24_48=1.34, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6CFOeutz91Yc for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 15:23:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from fgont.go6lab.si (fgont.go6lab.si [91.239.96.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99A5C3A045B for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.0.10] (unknown [181.45.84.85]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fgont.go6lab.si (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 155DD8045B; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 23:23:32 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Re: IETF in July
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
References: <DM6PR05MB63488A5D5D14D11CBF145CEBAEF50@DM6PR05MB6348.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> <2E3DFE67-85D0-4259-85D5-09FF9A262B48@tzi.org> <B28C7981-1AF4-4299-AAA0-4ABA667D81B4@consulintel.es>
From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
Message-ID: <91c57752-ae9e-63f6-a9b8-ed34a839bbef@si6networks.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 23:50:52 -0300
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <B28C7981-1AF4-4299-AAA0-4ABA667D81B4@consulintel.es>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/Pgo9Y_3DXkXrHqG8QNKhYu6nNqs>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 22:23:52 -0000
On 20/3/20 20:16, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > The confinement in Spain is for one more week (started one week ago already), but I predict that will be extended 2 more weeks and I think is the right thing to do now. May be even 3-4 weeks (so in total 1.5 months). > > I will like to be optimist at the time being, especially after having taken 20 years to organize it in Madrid! > > I think it all depends on what is the status by mid-April, maximum end of April, and not just in Spain. > > If this confinement works in Spain, and other countries (especially those which have participants of IETF), also do a similar 1-2 months confinement NOW, then borders could reopen and everything should be fine by end of May. > > I think the decision should be taken at that point. > > However, if any country is not doing the confinement, I will say, that country is going to be banned by the other countries, in order to avoid the Covid19 coming back. > > The situation in Spain has been worst because the government has not taken the right decision: > 1) Initially they brought back from China Spanish citizens and quarantined them mandatorily. Fine! > 2) However, surprisingly, when was clear that in Italy was widely spread, they didn't take any measurements to ask for mandatory quarantine for those coming from Italy. *Crazy and irrational* no sense compared to 1. > > Instead, countries from Africa and LAC, since the very early stages, have closed the borders to citizens from all over EU (and China). China itself is doing now the same. I'm convinced now that this is the right way to stop a wider spread. FWIW, in places like Argentina there was initially voluntary quarantine, plus all flights from Europe, USA and China (and probably others) were cancelled. Since yesterday we have compulsory quarantine. I think it is unlikely that things get normalized by July. Besides, finding flights might prove to be interesting -- everyone is postponing trips for "when it's over". -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
- IETF in July Ron Bonica
- Re: IETF in July Jared Mauch
- Re: IETF in July Keith Moore
- Re: IETF in July Carsten Bormann
- Re: IETF in July Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: IETF in July Fred Baker
- Re: IETF in July Job Snijders
- Re: IETF in July Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF in July Tim Wicinski
- Re: IETF in July JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IETF in July JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IETF in July Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF in July Ole Jacobsen
- Re: IETF in July Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
- Re: IETF in July JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IETF in July Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF in July Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF in July Carsten Bormann
- Re: IETF in July Adam Roach
- Re: IETF in July Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: IETF in July Stewart Bryant
- Re: IETF in July JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IETF in July Bob Hinden
- Re: IETF in July Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF in July JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IETF in July Michael StJohns
- Re: IETF in July Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF in July Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF in July Carsten Bormann
- Re: IETF in July JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IETF in July JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: IETF in July Adam Roach
- Re: IETF in July Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF in July Salz, Rich
- Re: IETF in July Michael Speer
- Re: IETF in July Alissa Cooper
- Re: IETF in July Michael Richardson
- Re: IETF in July Toerless Eckert
- Re: IETF in July Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF in July John Levine
- Re: IETF in July John C Klensin
- Re: IETF in July Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF in July Ross Finlayson
- Re: IETF in July Pete Resnick
- Re: IETF in July Toerless Eckert
- Re: IETF in July Toerless Eckert
- Re: IETF in July Toerless Eckert
- Re: IETF in July Randy Presuhn
- Re: IETF in July Fernando Gont
- Re: IETF in July Clint Chaplin
- Re: IETF in July Rich Kulawiec
- RE: IETF in July Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
- Re: IETF in July Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF in July Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IETF in July John Scudder
- Re: IETF in July Michael Richardson
- Re: IETF in July Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF in July Christer Holmberg
- Re: IETF in July Bajpai, Vaibhav