Re: leader statements

["Carlos M. Martinez" <[e-mail]>]

Hello,

On 10/10/13 4:30 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 10/10/13 9:49 AM, manning bill wrote:
>> the "leaders" are there to inform and moderate the discussion and
>> where possible, indicate that consensus has been reached (or not).
>> when "leaders" speak out on behalf of organization -particularly-
>> this organization and they are _NOT_ relaying the consensus of the
>> group at large, they have exceeded their remit.
> 
> I really think we need to stop behaving as if the IETF is a
> small group of people who know each other well.  Consensus
> decision-making does not scale well with the number of
> participants, and if we're going to require consensus on
> every leadership decision we're not going to get anything
> done.  

Couldn't be more true. If we want the IETF to have a voice on the larger
stage then we need to trust the people we appoint. While having a public
consultation period would be ideal we need to understand, and come to
terms with, the fact that it will not be possible to have this in all cases.

Now, being frozen and inactive may be preferable to
> having Jari and Russ go off and make a cooperative public
> statement about internet governance, but it seems to me that
> as long as we have recall and appeals processes we have
> incentives for IETF and IAB chairs, and IESG and IAB members,
> not to go off and do controversial things unilaterally, as
> well as a remedy if they do.

So true, again.


> 
> Melinda
> 

Carlos