Re: [Jmap] Submission

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 21 April 2017 23:19 UTC

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In article <emc8d121a7-bfae-4074-8de0-9716d42f680b@bodybag> you write:
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>I did mean inter-organizational.  E.g. external messaging.

In that case, I don't understand your point at all.  Existing mail
software uses the IETF submission protocols to send billions of
inter-organizational messages every day, frequently from rather
limited clients like a 2G flip phone or the laser printer on my desk
or the NAS in the server room.

Given the multi-decade track record here, what makes this so daunting
if you wrap some JSON around it?

R's,
John