RE: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags
"Debbie Garside" <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk> Wed, 10 October 2007 09:47 UTC
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From: Debbie Garside <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk>
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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags
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Hi I may have missed the answer to this question, apologies if I have, but why not include cwm within the registry and then deprecate in favour of zh-cwm? This way both are in the registry and the fallback, as described by Mark, is facilitated. The same could be done for zh-yue and yue and no-nb etc. Thus if people tag "incorrectly", with, for example, cwm or yue, applications would come up with the correct match anyway. I cannot pretend that I understand the entirety of the current conversations wrt extended language tags but I do think their inclusion would be useful for matching purposes. Best regards Debbie Garside > -----Original Message----- > From: Shawn Steele [mailto:Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com] > Sent: 09 October 2007 20:25 > To: Doug Ewell; LTRU Working Group > Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags > > > > > * Even for the current tags, many of the people in the > > > teleconference seem to extend RFC 4647 in ways that are best for > > > them. Strict use of > > > 4647 behavior seems rare. It seems reasonable to me to > expect that > > > in the future people may continue to do so and that RFC > 4647 and the > > > registry can only provide guidelines. > > > I agree with the part about RFC 4647, but not the Registry, > at least > > not in blanket terms. > > > The Registry contains some fields that are normative and > some that are > > informative. > > Tagging and lookup however are different. Many of the uses > I'm involved with presume that tags are correctly defined: > ie: only installed locales are allowed to be used for > resource names, or for marking documents. Presumably the > locales were created correctly when they were installed, so I > don't have to worry about "eng" being valid. > > Making a matching dependency on the registry would require a > new data source, which could be problematic, which is why I > prefer the information be in the tags. If the tags are > invalid I won't match correctly, but I won't have to look up > an on-line dependency. Obviously this is less of a problem > for some applications, but I don't see there being any > downside and it does help to have the ext lang tag in this case. > > - Shawn > > _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Extended language tags Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Andrew Cunningham
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags Don Osborn
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Andrew Cunningham
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Andrew Cunningham
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Andrew Cunningham
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags Don Osborn
- [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Andrew Cunningham
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Informative (was: Extended language tags) Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Informative (was: Extended language ta… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Informative (was: Extended languag… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Informative (was: Extended languag… Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Shawn Steele
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Informative Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) - … Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) - … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Debbie Garside
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Karen_Broome
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Shawn Steele
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Karen_Broome
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Karen_Broome
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Teleconference Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Teleconference Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Teleconference Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Teleconference Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Teleconference John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Karen_Broome
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Extended language tags (long reply) Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Extended language tags Debbie Garside