Re: [Mtgvenue] issue #3: Too many mandatory

> On Apr 5, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Dave's right, and this is where Alissa chimed in during the meeting.  As
> a first priority she would like us to focus on before the contract is
> signed.

Correct. Out of a desire to see progress towards consensus, my suggestion is for folks to focus on the set of criteria needed to initially select a venue for an upcoming meeting which has no venue contracted already. If the WG can get consensus around those criteria and how to organize them, I think that it will have achieved a meaningful milestone.

At that point, the WG may want to consider how the set of criteria might apply at later stages in the process between the time of initial venue selection and the time of a meeting itself, or it may not want to consider this. That does not need to be decided now, so I think energy would be better channeled towards finding the consensus described above.

My motivation for suggesting this sequencing of the work is that decisions about breaking a contract and moving or canceling a meeting inherently have additional considerations associated with them that initial venue selections do not have — e.g., the specific circumstances leading to consideration of moving or canceling, cancellation costs, costs to our relationships with particular venues or venue chains, etc. So I think it will be easier to settle on criteria for initial venue selection before adding these additional factors into the discussion.

Thanks,
Alissa

> 
> 
> On 4/5/17 10:24 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
>> On 4/5/2017 1:12 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
>>> move or cancel the meeting.
>> 
>> 
>> BTW, folk seem to have mostly missed that the title of the draft
>> refers to 'selection', which is a particular step in the overall
>> process. And the wg charter concerns "specification of the venue
>> selection process."
>> 
>> All sorts of things happen after a venue is 'selected'.  These things
>> are quite distinct form 'selection'.
>> 
>> Contracting is one of those steps.  Another is monitoring and
>> re-evaluating if conditions change.  Those are, of course, essential.
>> 
>> They are also outside the formal scope of this effort, though everyone
>> seems to prefer to conflate them, which is having the predictable
>> effect of making discussion and wording considerably more complicated.
>> 
>> d/
>> 
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