Re: [Mtgvenue] issue #3: Too many mandatory

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Andrew Sullivan

... and the fact that we have meeting selection *people* (and not
> mindless machines) is why I don't like mandatory to be such an
> absolute -- I think that we should always allow an out / exception
> handling for corner cases...
> So, I think that Mandatory should really mean "Do X, unless there is a
> really good reason not to" -- this seems to be very very similar to
> "Exception-required", and so these should just a a single level.
>
>
So, reading this, I assumed you simply saw 3 branches to this rather than
4.  That is, you saw that there *might* be an exception to even rules like
"Must not select a venue with no network" and that the people involved
should be able to put it to the community when they thought there was such
an exception.  But then I read this:

> I also think that it is impolite to assume that we need to document
> things like: "Thou shalt not meet in a location if there is not enough
> space". If we really think that the folk selecting meeting venues
> cannot figure that out, then we have bigger issues, and no amount of
> documentation will solve it...
>
>
This seems to read as "Anything in the mandatory branch would be so obvious
that it would be rude to mention it".   I disagree with this.  We have
enough people from enough different places that what some of us consider
"it would be rude to mention it" turn out to be "eh, we could trade it off"
to others.  Unless we actually write it down, we'll continue to have the
assumptions about what belongs in which category as a source of late
surprise and contention.

No hats,

Ted

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> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
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