Re: [Mtgvenue] issue #3: Too many mandatory

Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> Wed, 05 April 2017 19:31 UTC

Return-Path: <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>
X-Original-To: mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B147129439 for <mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:31:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -7.022
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.022 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=qti.qualcomm.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XBF3WpaufBCo for <mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 815F012941D for <mtgvenue@ietf.org>; Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1491420678; x=1522956678; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: references:mime-version; bh=hyA/vs/FmZOwCbtv7sr43vLk+tXFRk3r32gxsrODazQ=; b=kEqxPSljarOtfHcZuiTCUcfnJDEMAfUoRdGPw8nK7ljUgnzkEpVEY8ZC Bi83drPuc9r28hVlnlgQrVGKGzq5W8Y7Lep60xmr+ygMF9JFtIY5QHYUf qUIMT/U8pe8svh7D2vNl2oRQd0g0NrmTqunpQLkpanvhaQzFw9LTJzCDA Y=;
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.37,280,1488873600"; d="scan'208";a="276230956"
Received: from unknown (HELO Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com) ([10.53.140.107]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2017 12:31:17 -0700
X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5800,7501,8489"; a="1341717758"
X-MGA-submission: MDGK9gnQU6NbF8GtozxwG1PWqKiRGPfF+hJe2hkkpIIsoBdMZR8lYPhvOOdohc+ZuT6TpFZOJTEIPTxpZzZxYSg6tbaIp54EfVA+pdGxxdjhNKHw2Z8m9WHnTPq+3vAwKrp3B17MwsS53UTmvll1PsuA
Received: from nasanexm01f.na.qualcomm.com ([10.85.0.32]) by Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 05 Apr 2017 12:31:17 -0700
Received: from [10.64.117.59] (10.80.80.8) by NASANEXM01F.na.qualcomm.com (10.85.0.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:31:16 -0700
From: Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>
To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
CC: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, "mtgvenue@ietf.org" <mtgvenue@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:31:14 -0500
Message-ID: <759DD927-BEC2-4989-A9F5-46B7DD090B24@qti.qualcomm.com>
In-Reply-To: <10ee5913-87d4-d895-e880-54471b2469a7@labn.net>
References: <37de22dc-04a4-f868-698e-cf03cd791957@cisco.com> <a1b4fb14-64ec-2848-91e7-faa93ba6e697@labn.net> <cfd7ace5-d834-fb41-57a4-ea11d0126f0f@cisco.com> <10ee5913-87d4-d895-e880-54471b2469a7@labn.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5347)
X-Originating-IP: [10.80.80.8]
X-ClientProxiedBy: NASANEXM01F.na.qualcomm.com (10.85.0.32) To NASANEXM01F.na.qualcomm.com (10.85.0.32)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mtgvenue/WG5PqODScK1GjaPQawh0FscUE2o>
Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] issue #3: Too many mandatory
X-BeenThere: mtgvenue@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "List for email discussion of the IAOC meeting venue selection process." <mtgvenue.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mtgvenue>, <mailto:mtgvenue-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mtgvenue/>
List-Post: <mailto:mtgvenue@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mtgvenue-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mtgvenue>, <mailto:mtgvenue-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 19:31:21 -0000

On 5 Apr 2017, at 11:44, Lou Berger wrote:

> On 4/5/2017 12:02 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:
>> This one gets removed based on comments in the room.
>>
> I don't mind being in the minority / the rough, but I think it
> reasonable for us to follow rfc2418 in this discussion.

I would take Eliot's sentence to mean, "Based on what was said in the 
f2f room in Chicago, this is to be removed. Speak up if you disagree." 
In particular, I would not interpret it to mean, "This is absolutely the 
consensus of the WG, therefore it will be removed and we are done with 
this topic." So I think we are following regular 2418 order here.

Still looking in the Meetecho recording for the section that speaks to 
your substantive point. (Gee, transcription service would be nice.)

pr
-- 
Pete Resnick <http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/>
Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478