Re: [Mtgvenue] issue #3: Too many mandatory
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Wed, 05 April 2017 21:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] issue #3: Too many mandatory
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Thanks Pete. This sounds perfect. Lou On 4/5/2017 5:36 PM, Pete Resnick wrote: > On 5 Apr 2017, at 16:27, Lou Berger wrote: > >> Pete, >> >> Thanks for the response. >> >> >> On 4/5/2017 3:31 PM, Pete Resnick wrote: >>> On 5 Apr 2017, at 11:44, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/5/2017 12:02 PM, Eliot Lear wrote: >>>>> This one gets removed based on comments in the room. >>>>> >>>> I don't mind being in the minority / the rough, but I think it >>>> reasonable for us to follow rfc2418 in this discussion. >>> I would take Eliot's sentence to mean, "Based on what was said in the >>> f2f room in Chicago, this is to be removed. Speak up if you >>> disagree." >> Well I wanted to get more info and to understand before rehashing what >> was discussed. As this wasn't minuted (but I didn't listen to the >> recording) I thought asking before disagreeing made sense. Depending >> on >> the rationale/conclusion I may even agree. > Yeah, I do wish this point was captured in the minutes. I have to admit: > I *think* I know what the rationale was, but I don't want to say until I > review the Meetecho because I had a discussion outside of the session > about this topic where I expressed my own opinion, and I'm not > completely sure that I haven't mashed the two in my head. Bad form for > the chair to let their own opinion get in like that. :-) > >>> In particular, I would not interpret it to mean, "This is absolutely >>> the >>> consensus of the WG, therefore it will be removed and we are done >>> with >>> this topic." >> Fair enough. Given the brevity of the response -- This is basically >> how >> I read it. >> >>> So I think we are following regular 2418 order here. >> Great. My hope is to see (quoting here) >> >> Decisions reached during a face-to-face meeting about >> topics or issues which have not been discussed on the mailing list, >> or are significantly different from previously arrived mailing list >> consensus MUST be reviewed on the mailing list. > You bet. The chairs are absolutely committed to that principle. > >> Specifically, I think it's reasonable to explain on the list the >> rational for basically saying the it's okay to plan for a meeting that >> will operate at a loss discussed. > Yep. Unless Charles or Eliot (or for that matter, anyone else on the > list who can do so) gets to it first, I'll post a summary of that part > of the discussion once I get unburied from day-job things. > > pr
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