Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

Koen Vos <koen.vos@skype.net> Mon, 11 January 2010 19:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)
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Quoting Herve Taddei:

> BTW, it is not because it is old that it is not of interest. Different
> industry organizations are deploying G.722 (e.g. ETSI TC DECT, Home Gateway
> Initiative) and we all know that G.711 is widely deployed.

Right, these codecs are widely used only because they are old and thus  
easily distributable. Technically, these are inefficient codecs using  
outdated technology, unsuitable for the range of networks that carry  
VoIP.

koen.