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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Call for Adoption: DMARC Use of the RFC5322.Sender Header Field

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Sat, 15 August 2020 23:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Call for Adoption: DMARC Use of the RFC5322.Sender Header Field
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On 8/15/2020 3:33 PM, Douglas E. Foster wrote:
> Consequently, the real problem before us becomes the existence of 
> users who are unhappy because the From address on some mail does not 
> meet their preferences.    I have to ask why that is a problem worthy 
> of a standards body? 


Who, exactly, do you think these services are /for/?


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