Re: [dmarc-ietf] Call for Adoption: DMARC Use of the RFC5322.Sender Header Field

[Seth Blank <[e-mail]>]

Hector, please constrain your comments to the technical matters at hand,
not the actions of others.

This thread is veering towards ad hominem attacks which will not be
tolerated.

Seth, as Chair

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 7:12 PM Hector Santos <hsantos=
[e-mail]> wrote:

> On 9/29/2020 6:54 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
> > On 9/29/2020 3:41 PM, Hector Santos wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you have an algorithm that replaces the current one?
> >
> > I've no idea what any of your note has to do with the DKIM protocol
> > specification.
>
> wow.
>
> > By way of a small example, DKIM does not have o=.
>
> Right, you were instrumental in attempting to "separate" policy from
> DKIM to create DKIM-BASE, a success, it allowed progress to be made
> with DKIM, but it never separated the signer::author identity
> association primarily because, once again, DKIM-BASE is still
> inherently bound to the 5322.From field.  You never separated the DKIM
> anchor identity and it was stated many times, until then, we will
> always have the signer::author relationship and policy protocols based
> on this relationship.
>
> Until it is changed, DKIM will always have this self-signed
> signer::author relationship. That goes back to DomainKeys with o=,
> early DKIM with o=, removed in DKIM-BASE as you gracefully pointed out
> but it moved to ADSP (now DMARC).
>
> > But really, nothing in your note concerns the published and approved
> > specification.
>
> Published and approved, yet seeking further comments.  From I had
> already read and understood from the start, all in once sentence:
>
> Extract 5322.Sender, if found, use this for DMARC lookup, if not
> found, fall back to 5322.From
>
> Correct? Anything else?
>
> The only systems that this will work with is compliant downlink
> receivers.  Non-compliant receivers are still a problem.  At the end
> of the day, the Mailing List Server (MLS) still needs to support DMARC
> on the inbound side.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Hector Santos,
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> https://twitter.com/hectorsantos
>
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