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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Call for Adoption: DMARC Use of the RFC5322.Sender Header Field

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Sun, 27 September 2020 03:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Call for Adoption: DMARC Use of the RFC5322.Sender Header Field
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On 9/26/2020 7:23 PM, Seth Blank wrote:
>
> The goal of DMARCbis is to take the independent stream informational
> RFC 7489 and drive it to an IETF stream standards track document that
> represents IETF consensus. So this work is explicitly around DMARC as
> a protocol that describes how a domain owner transmits its policy for
> mail that does not authenticate to a mail receiver.
>
> Further, our charter takes the usefulness of DMARC in its current form
> as table stakes, and (to paraphrase) primarily focuses our discussion
> around addressing limitations or operational concerns of the protocol.
>
> One of the primary limitations of DMARC is when mail transits through
> a forwarder that breaks authentication. For DMARC to go standards
> track, this issue must be addressed. Currently ARC is the approved
> experiment from Phase 2 of our Charter.
>
> Seth, as Chair

Thanks for the summary. Are any of authorized third party proposals on 
the table?


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