Re: [Gendispatch] Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF

Fernando Gont <> Wed, 24 February 2021 16:39 UTC

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Hello, Vittorio,

Thanks a lot for your comments! In-line...

On 23/2/21 12:07, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> Thanks for starting this. I also wanted to write something, but could
> not find the time. I wanted to work on a description of factors and
> dimensions that could make people feel out of place in an
> organization, both in professional and social terms, or make it
> harder to participate. I think that the right approach is first to
> document all the potential issues, and then to discuss whether each
> of them can and should be addressed (in some cases, there might even
> be groups that you do not want to include, but that's a separate
> discussion from documenting that they exist).

Agreed. While our document has some side-note possible suggestions 
(i.e., "this is very doable"), the focus of the document -- at least so 
far -- is in the problem statement, rather than solutions.  SOlutions 
would most likely require their own documents.

> I only got as far as writing down a bullet list of points, so I'm
> sharing it - you covered part of it already, not everything. I'll be
> happy to contribute text if I have time, but in the meantime, here it
> is:

The list you've provided is really good. Thanks!

We'll start incorporating all the items you've suggested such that they 
make it into -01.  If you have further thoughts or text, they will be 
very welcome. And, in any case, we'll send a heads-up to the up-coming 
rev (before posting) such that you can verify if there's anything we've 
misunderstood or got wrong.

Thanks a lot!

Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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