Re: [79all] IETF Badge

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 12 November 2010 03:06 UTC

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On 11/12/10 8:55 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote:
> 
> On Nov 11, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
>> On 11/11/10 11:22 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
>> 
>> To be fair, so might the meeting rooms (audio equipment,
>> projectors, etc.). Perhaps in this instance the hotel was concerned
>> about theft of such equipment. However, we don't know why the
>> policy was so strictly enforced this time, nor whether the IAOC or
>> the Secretariat was asked to do so by the hotel or by the local
>> host. And if people don't know the cause they begin to speculate.
>> 
>> When might the IAOC be able to provide a definitive answer?
> 
> I spoke with the Host about the motivation behind the security people
> checking badges.
> 
> They have hosted other (but smaller) conferences, and they have
> provided security at those meetings.  They have had experience with
> people trying to enter the meetings who were not authorized
> participants in the meeting.
> 
> Yesterday, 3 people were stopped by security and upon examination it
> emerged that they were not paying attendees but rather using the
> credentials of other people.
> 
> They are also concerned about the theft of equipment throughout the
> meeting, not just the terminal room.  They are very embarrassed by
> the theft of an AP from the Terminal Room.  However, as every place
> else, the IETF arranges for security for the Terminal Room after
> hours, which was when the AP was taken. So it was not their
> responsibility.
> 
> They are not there enforcing local law.

Ray, thank you for following up. Now we can put the conspiracy
theories to rest. Well, most of them. ;-)

Peter

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