Re: [79all] IETF Badge
Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> Fri, 12 November 2010 01:34 UTC
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Hi, Hadriel's point below (the difference between important and unimportant decisions) is key to this discussion. We do not want the community to micro-manage unimportant details but definitely want the community to be involved in important decisions. Since the IOAC thought this was an unimportant detail, it is normal they did not involve the community. If this is not an unimportant detail but an important policy instead, people should explain why so that the IOAC understands the reasons and involves the community in the future. Cheers, Gonzalo On 12/11/2010 1:45 AM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > > I find it hard to believe you guys don't object to the badge checking in particular, but just to the idea that a host/hotel would dictate such a policy without notifying you in advance. > > The host/hotel apparently also decided to have hotel staff pouring our coffee and opening the doors for us, which has happened in the past but not frequently, afaicr. Yet I don't hear concern that the host/hotel "dictated" a new radical policy of coffee pouring without prior warning. Why? Because it doesn't really matter, in the grand scheme of life, and thus you don't care. Ergo, you must care about the badge checking in particular. So let's not pretend otherwise. > > Given the logistics and work required to put these types of events together, and all the minor and major details, does the badge-checking policy "change" really matter?? Personally I think this meeting has gone really smoothly. > > Look on the bright side: at least we didn't have to take trains. ;) > > -hadriel > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >
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