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Re: (DMARC) We've been here before, was Why mailing lists

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 17 April 2014 12:29 UTC

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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 08:29:08 -0400
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From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: (DMARC) We've been here before, was Why mailing lists
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>> The magic token has to be cryptographically tied to the contents of the 
>> original message
>
> No it doesn't. It has to be cryptographically tied to the mailing list's 
> re-sending of the message. How to do that with asymmetric keys should be 
> discussed somewhere other than on this list.

Now I'm totally confused.  How does that help me as a sender distinguish 
between a good mailing list that is resending real mail from Yahoo and an 
evil mailing list that is sending phishes?

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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