Re: (DMARC) We've been here before, was Why mailing lists

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Fri, 18 April 2014 20:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: (DMARC) We've been here before, was Why mailing lists
From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
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On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:

> And I'd suggest that if MUA's do evolve in that manner, maybe it's a
> hint that the problem which the DMARC cheerleaders tried to sweep away
> as "not a problem" really *is* a problem that users really care about.
> And I would hope that in the future, they don't once again try to do
> something that only meets their own parochial interests, and ignores
> everyone elses' concerns.
>

There are some rather broad brush strokes here, and I'm running out of
steam trying to keep the record straight.  I'll try once more:

As John and others have already said, DMARC works fine for specific use
cases.  It's already been in use by other large operators like Bank of
America, PayPal, Facebook, and others for quite some time, with no visible
impact.  The results for them have been very positive.  Google also has it
turned on part-way for the domain their employees use.

The difference here is that Yahoo has users that send mail where those
others do not.

-MSK