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Re: (DMARC) We've been here before, was Why mailing lists

"John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Thu, 17 April 2014 21:02 UTC

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> MUAs that goof the semantics of the "Sender:" header field are either
> not implementing EMail the way it has been specified by the IETF,
> or they goofed the second part of the above explanation for SHOULD.

I wouldn't disagree.  If you can find an Internet where everyone 
correctly implements every RFC, I'd sure like to see it.  In the 
meantime, we're stuck with the one we have.

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John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, http://jl.ly
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