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Re: DMARC: perspectives from a listadmin of large open-source lists

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 15 April 2014 23:00 UTC

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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:00:31 +1200
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DMARC: perspectives from a listadmin of large open-source lists
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Pete,

On 16/04/2014 10:20, Pete Resnick wrote:
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> (If the originating domain is expressly *not* OK with the
> redistribution, the mailing list should bounce the message back to the
> author saying as much.)

Isn't that exactly what p=reject implies? If so, the logical behaviour
for all list software would be to check the DMARC record for the
originating domain of each message, and bounce it if p=reject.

   Brian

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