Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Mon, 04 March 2013 23:11 UTC

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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:11:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director
From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Perhaps even dedicate a WG-Chairs lunch meeting to it?  I think the
role has grown
over the years.

Alia

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:
> On 4/03/2013 15:57, John Leslie wrote:
>>
>> Eggert, Lars <lars@netapp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 13:18, Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will say it again - the IETF is organized by us. Therefore, this
>>>> situation is created by us. We have the power to fix it. We have to
>>>> want to fix it. Saying there is nothing we can do because this is the
>>>> way it is is the same as saying we do not WANT to fix it.
>>>
>>> what is "the fix"?
>>
>>     There is an obvious place to look for ideas: the directorates. See:
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate.html
>
> That would help if the AD job would not be a full time job. Sure.
> And I see some suggestions in this email thread to rely more on the
> directorates. That makes sense (but reviews vary greatly, however)
> One track not mentioned in this thread is the document shepherd.
> The document shepherd job, when done according to RFC 4858 (see specifically
> section 3.2 and 3.3) would save a huge amount of time to the AD.
> Recently, for a single draft, I spent hoouuurrrssss trying to track all the
> open issues from the directorates and the IESG, and chasing the authors. On
> top of taking some time, I had to be become expert for every single aspect
> of the specification to evaluate whether the answer was right... while the
> document shepherd has already the expertise.
> We should probably stress (again) the importance of document shepherd
> function...
>
> Regards, Benoit
>
>