Re: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-6man-frag-deprecate-00.txt

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Wed, 26 June 2013 00:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-6man-frag-deprecate-00.txt
In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:57:41 +1200." <51CA2E75.7050204@gmail.com>
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In message <51CA2E75.7050204@gmail.com>, Brian E Carpenter writes:
> On 26/06/2013 11:23, Randy Bush wrote:
> ...
> 
> > ron is actually deploying ipv6 in enterprises to see what his customers
> > are seeing, eating his own dogfood.  he did not field this draft for his
> > amusement or to get his name on an rfc.
> 
> The only times I've seen hard FAILs with apparently operational IPv6
> sites were caused by MTU mismatch and TCP MSS negotiation failure,
> followed by silence which I assumed was due to fragmented packets
> being discarded. Yes, this is a real problem and doing nothing
> certainly isn't an option. We just need to be sure that the cure
> isn't worse than the illness.

Named uses IPV6_USE_MIN_MTU=1 to avoid this.  It should affect MSS
negotiation but MacOS and FreeBSD are broken (bug fix submitted for
FreeBSD).

Mark 

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