Re: [rtcweb] Congratuiations on the Cisco announcement - but we still prefer VP8

Harald Alvestrand <hta@google.com> Thu, 07 November 2013 21:28 UTC

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 22:27:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Congratuiations on the Cisco announcement - but we still prefer VP8
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Krasimir, if you want to discuss licenses with the Motorola Mobility
lawyers, the contact details are in the filing.

My impression when I asked them to file something was that the status of
that project didn't even enter into consideration when they decided how to
respond - but I'm not going to speak for them. If you want to know, call
them.



On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Krasimir Kolarov <kolarov@apple.com> wrote:

> One interesting observation from the database is that one of the most
> recent Type 2 (royalty bearing) declarations on the list is from a major
> proponent of Royalty Free coding - Motorola Mobility (which is now fully
> owned by Google).
>
> It looks like a compelling strategy - to offer technology that you support
> for Royalty Free adoption, while blocking a competing technology with a
> Type 2 declaration.
>
> Krasimir
>
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Harald Alvestrand <hta@google.com> wrote:
>
> The list of declarations made against the proposed baseline document is
> available at the bottom of this page:
>
>
> http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards_development/governance_of_technical_work/patents.htm
>
> For declarations against the MPEG baseline proposal, look for the number
> 14496-29.
>
> For some of the declarations, the spreadsheet will tell you whether it's a
> Type 1 (royalty free) or Type 2 (royalty bearing) declaration. For the 3
> most recent declarations in the spreadsheet, you will even find a link to
> the declaration itself.
>
> Draw your own conclusions.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>> > In short, most MPEG members are not evil, and want the same thing as the
>> > open source and broader communities, including royalty-free licensing.
>>
>> I agree, but the structure of the MPEG is such that it only takes one
>> (or a handful).  We've heard promises of RF baselines stretching back
>> almost 20 years.
>>
>> I agree this would be a wholly positive development, but frankly...
>> call us when it's done.
>>
>> Monty
>>
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