Re: [homenet] Let's make in-home ULA presence a MUST !?

Mikael Abrahamsson <> Thu, 16 October 2014 07:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Let's make in-home ULA presence a MUST !?
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Tero Kivinen wrote:

> My ssh connections are usually up and running for ever. They only go 
> down when I update my firewall, there is network problems, or our 
> company firewall is reset for some reason. Usually that means the ssh 
> connection is up for few months... I would be very unhappy I would need 
> to restart my TCP connections every month, so any ISP giving me such 
> notwork, would not be consider as proper ISP, and I would immediately 
> switch to another ISP if my ISP starts doing things that break my 
> connections.

I use MOSH. I never really notice when I change IPs because I move from 
wifi to wired to mobile and to a different wifi, it just seamlessly 
connects, usually before I am even able to type my password on my 
computer. I want all applications to behave like this.

Quasi stable addressing makes application developers take the "stable" 
part for granted. Networks go down and come back up again, TCP sessions 
hang due to stateful things in the network losing state etc. This is 
something an application developer needs to handle. If it only happens 2-4 
times per year, they'll blame the network and not their application.

Mikael Abrahamsson    email: