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Re: "professional" in an IETF context

David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Sun, 31 October 2021 22:03 UTC

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From: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 17:03:32 -0500
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Subject: Re: "professional" in an IETF context
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
Cc: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 16:12 Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
wrote:

> On 10/31/21 3:34 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>
> > I repeat my suggestion that s/unprofessional/uncivil/ would fix the
> > document under discussion.
>
> Perhaps it would.   And all other things being equal, a simpler fix is
> attractive.  But I don't know why others seem to insist on "professional".
>
> Keith


In the context of the document under discussion, I think “uncivil” is what
is needed and might translate better to other languages and societies.

In my opinion, “professional” includes technical and ethical context that
are unnecessary for particular usage. That is, any kind of “uncivil commentary,
regardless of the general subject” is inappropriate on the IETF mailing
list.

Nevertheless, of course IETF participants should act in a
professional manner, but that isn’t the issue for that bullet.





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