interface ID (was Re: "professional" in an IETF context)

Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Tue, 02 November 2021 17:05 UTC

Return-Path: <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E2C3A08BD for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 2 Nov 2021 10:05:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.898
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6g2zf-L7Mggm for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 2 Nov 2021 10:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp (necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp [131.112.32.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 669913A08B9 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Tue, 2 Nov 2021 10:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 77249 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2021 17:02:43 -0000
Received: from necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (131.112.32.132) by necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 2 Nov 2021 17:02:43 -0000
Message-ID: <b38b4412-6955-804f-8c8b-da245a794ea5@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2021 02:05:01 +0900
MIME-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.1
Subject: interface ID (was Re: "professional" in an IETF context)
Content-Language: en-US
To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
References: <8F4B97EA-665F-4A59-B99D-791B4AB9F2F7@yahoo.co.uk> <746C1453-FFB0-46E5-ABF2-8630DC23B959@network-heretics.com> <c3e9fe1b-8e48-a364-9e25-4084dac70889@meetinghouse.net> <3a6bf8ad-5492-0942-a451-6317e8a93705@network-heretics.com> <3e685576-a230-a7c4-f371-d66a55aa820d@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> <7a087707-499f-e3bf-8701-1a58930a8a22@meetinghouse.net> <4ec32d7a-a17b-635b-91bc-4152313d6800@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> <885e62bf-7d6a-4501-a48a-e7c2cbf20382@joelhalpern.com> <e59adb61-a55c-7f5f-a60a-40bf186c139d@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> <CAC8QAceMSrfkqGTYcMNr3JargO3gxJqTaEyf02LGHd-KVeUDHw@mail.gmail.com> <6286da3e-2beb-9556-089a-2e1951573b1e@gmail.com> <59c80b60-438f-b10f-ad61-ba839f6e4f95@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> <e834916e85ea47ef94fce07c23928d2b@huawei.com>
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
In-Reply-To: <e834916e85ea47ef94fce07c23928d2b@huawei.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/H4r8APzpC1KHbbEGPj0Nu29vvgE>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2021 17:05:09 -0000

As I wrote:

 > As I already pointed out in the past here, having "interface
 > identifier" is a feature inherited from XNS having running code.
 >
 > But, that XNS and IPv6 have running code dose not mean they are
 > good.

On 2021/11/03 1:45, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:

> +1. It was a big mistake to break OSI model and include L2 address
> (MAC) inside L3 address (IPv6). Half of the address bits were
> wasted. Many people are coming and coming asking that they would like
> too to get some bits of IPv6 address for some new protocol. Eduard

Indeed. Originally, as proposed by IPng directorates, interface ID
was 48bit long. However, as I pointed out that IEEE1394 has 64bit
MAC, it was extended to be 64bit long.

But, I haven't noticed that it is layer violation. Thank you.

						Masataka Ohta