Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Sat, 22 October 2005 17:22 UTC

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From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
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Agree.

Having organized some smaller meetings (up to 800-900 people), I know very
well that this is a real situation and in most of the situations you need to
book a venue at least 18 months in advance.

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Ed Juskevicius <edj@nortel.com>
> Fecha: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:45:07 -0400
> Para: Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu>, <dcrocker@bbiw.net>
> CC: "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
> Conversación: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
> Asunto: RE: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
> 
> Just to respond to the suggestion that Montreal and Toronto could be
> good destinations ...
> 
> In theory - Yes.  Both venues have a lot to offer. This being said, I
> know my company looked at both cities last November before deciding to
> propose Vancouver for IETF 64. Toronto and Montreal were already fully
> booked for November 2005 when we started looking in November 2004.
> Twelve month's of lead-time was not enough to get into either of these
> venues!
> 
> I don't know about July 2006 or November 2006, but I would be surprised
> to learn they have room for us. If we seriously want to have IETF
> meetings in Montreal or Toronto, we might have to wait until 2007 - if
> we start planning now :-(
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ed
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Hutzelman [mailto:jhutz@cmu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:27 PM
> To: dcrocker@bbiw.net; Juskevicius, Ed [CAR:1A12:EXCH]
> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 20, 2005 09:22:40 AM -0700 Dave Crocker
> <dhc2@dcrocker.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The criteria reduced to:  Major city with excellent international
>> flight connectivity and appropriate meeting facilities in an area with
> 
>> good support facilities, so the venue is not some sort of
>> limited-access ghetto.  One default on the North American west coast,
>> one on the East. One in Europe and one in Asia. I believe that the
>> current realities of travel to the U.S. by non-citizens makes the U.S.
> 
>> a problematic venue for IETF participation. I also believe that
>> non-North American travel for primary IETF contributors is frequently
>> problematic.  So for the majority of IETF meetings, Canada looks
>> extremely attractive.  That means Vancouver for the West (though
>> perhaps Calgary works) and Toronto or Montreal for the East.
> 
> Or we could just default all North American meetings to Minneapolis. :-)
> 
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