Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org> Mon, 17 October 2005 16:39 UTC

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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:38:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
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On 13-Oct-2005, at 20:35, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:

> How about adding that the mean outdoor temperature at the time of the
> year the meeting is being held should be above 0 degrees Centigrade?

References to climate conditions outside the meeting venue have no  
place in this document, in my opinion; they belong in the orthogonal  
realm of holiday planning.

However, in the interests of community education, perhaps some  
operational data on the effect of cold winter climates on  
mollycoddled, temperate-dwelling wimps might be instructive.

Test subject was born and partially raised in the north island of New  
Zealand, and now lives in south-western Ontario, Canada. This is by  
no means a cold place by Canadian standards; mean minimum daily  
temperatures in January and February are only -10C, and it never  
normally gets much colder than about -25C (although it feels  
substantially colder if it's windy).

Extensive climate-related fear was confirmed to exist in the test  
subject before moving to Canada, together with mild incomprehension  
at large negative numbers purporting to represent outside air  
temperature.

However, subsequent experimentation suggests that the magic boundary  
between cold and "you need proper clothing or you will get injured"  
for non-trivial periods of time spent outside is somewhere around  
-15C. For brief trips outside (house to car, car to office) the  
boundary is much lower, perhaps around -25C.

Test subject also had occasion to fly from Auckland to Halifax, Nova  
Scotia in early March, (i.e. from southern summer to northern winter)  
where he got off the plane wearing a t-shirt, sandals and shorts.  
Sandals are no longer recommended for negotiation of snow-covered  
walking surfaces, and t-shirts are now considered insufficient  
protection against blowing snow. For the experimental record, however  
subject did not die; nor did he lose any limbs or digits. He got a  
lot of hard stares from people, though. More so than usual, even.


Joe


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