Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

I know some specific country/island which has been banned by US, and is an
easy one ...

I think is also important to know who has got so many (visa) *difficulties*
that has abandoned the idea to come to an IETF or has been close to do so.

By the way, I'm lurking silently all the comments. My idea is to try to
summarize everything probably at the end of the week.

Regards,
Jordi

> De: Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>
> Organización: IBM
> Responder a: <ietf-bounces@ietf.org>
> Fecha: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:48:09 +0200
> Para: Avri Doria <avri@acm.org>
> CC: "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
> Asunto: Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
> 
> They are certainly points to be taken seriously, IMHO.
> 
> In fact, I'd be interested in hearing from people who have
> been unable to travel to IETF meetings due to visa refusals.
> If people who have had this problem write to me privately,
> I will anonymize and summarize the data.
> 
>      Brian
> 
> Avri Doria wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I can agree with SHOULD and SHOULD NOT, the only problem i had in
>> writing it that way is i could not meet the specification requirement
>> for specifying the conditions under which the requirement would not
>> apply.  I did not want to careless create loopholes.
>> 
>> My main concern is that these issues be a formal requirement of the
>> community's decision in where we meet.  And that they be taken  seriously.
>> 
>> a.
>> On 17 okt 2005, at 21.50, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> 
>>> Sam Hartman wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Avri" == Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>     Avri> - MUST NOT be held in a country whose visa requirements are
>>>>     Avri> so stringent as to make it impossible or even extremely
>>>>     Avri> difficult for some participant to attend.
>>>> I think this is too strict.  I think visa criteria are an issue, but
>>>> saying that visa criteria prevent one participant from attending  seems
>>>> way too strict.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> More generally, any non-trivial set of MUST NOTs is going to be
>>> impossible to satisfy simultaneously. I really don't see how we can
>>> go further than should/should not, in practical reality.
>>> 
>>>    Brian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
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