Re: RFC Series Editor (RSE) Statement of Work

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Mon, 15 July 2019 17:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: RFC Series Editor (RSE) Statement of Work
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On 7/15/19 1:38 PM, Leif Johansson wrote:

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> Skickat från min iPhone
>
>> 15 juli 2019 kl. 19:34 skrev Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>:
>>
>>> On 7/15/19 11:15 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think its a good idea to include "experience as an RFC author"
>>> as a desired skill. Including that requirement will skew the selection
>>> towards the usual suspects and Recruiting the next RSE from within the
>>> community should imo not be a high priority for us.
>> I emphatically disagree.   Why should IETF entrust the editing of its work product to someone who might not understand IETF's mission or share its values?
>>
>> Keith
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> I submit that there are other ways to come to share the values of the Internet community than to publish RFCs...

To me the perspective of a standards author (especially if also an 
implementor) seems fairly unique.   Even people who broadly support 
IETF's goals don't always properly understand its perspective.

Keith