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Re: RFC Series Editor (RSE) Statement of Work

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 26 July 2019 21:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: RFC Series Editor (RSE) Statement of Work
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Richard,

> The only way you find the right person without a process is to pick someone you already know.

Of course. That's exactly why the procedure for senior appointments starts with a search committee. That's how we got Heather, for example. It's a completely different process than an RFP for a measurable job of work.

Regards
   Brian

On 27-Jul-19 09:34, Richard Barnes wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:43 Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se <mailto:leifj@mnt.se>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On 2019-07-26 14:30, Richard Barnes wrote:
>     > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 00:05 Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se <mailto:leifj@mnt.se>
>     > <mailto:leifj@mnt..se <mailto:leifj@mnt.se>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >     > I completely agree.  This should be treated as a search, not
>     >     writing an RFP and see who applies.
>     >
>     >     Thats absolutely right - people & community over process!
>     >
>     >
>     > This seems ironic, given how focused this thread has been on process. 
>     > The process (RFP vs search) doesn’t matter — either way we need to get
>     > the best person for the role. 
>     >
>     > To put it in contrast to Klensin’s comment at the plenary — just because
>     > someone is engaged as a contractor doesn’t make them a bag of nails.
> 
>     Richard,
> 
>     That is not what "people over process" means.
> 
>     What I mean is this: you find the right person for the job and then you
>     figure out how to get them into the position to do the job.
> 
>     Maybe I should have said "people before process".
> 
>             Cheers Leif
> 
> 
> You say this as if the right person just appears out of thin air.  There’s always a process to find the right person, whether that’s posting a job description and collecting CVs or posting an RFP and collecting RFP responses.
> 
> The only way you find the right person without a process is to pick someone you already know.  It would be irresponsible of this community to limit ourselves in that way.
> 
> —Richard
> 
>

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