Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt

Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org> Mon, 22 October 2018 17:32 UTC

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On 10/22/18 12:04 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Philip Homburg wrote:
>
>> At the same time, if room full of operators at a RIPE meeting say 
>> they have no
>> need for this option, then who is going to set it on routers?
>
> How many heard about this for the first time during that lightning 
> talk and had an informed idea about this? 

Depends on what you mean by "informed." They have a pretty well-informed 
idea about their own networks.

How well-informed are the participants in 6man? Is it obvious that once 
someone subscribes to 6man and reads the background of this doc, they 
will be supporters?

Is there clear consensus?


> How many do even run IPv6 at all? On wifi where this is most important 
> probably?

I haven't checked the list of meeting attendees against ASNs with IPv6, 
but I would expect it's much higher than average. No idea whether it's 
higher than the networks of IETF attendees, but then, most IETF 
attendees aren't network operators.


>
> What I would like to hear is from wifi experts, how much does the IPv4 
> broadcast traffic cause problems in large wifi deployments? Arena 
> settings for instance?
>
> Because this isn't just an individual device optimization, it has 
> consequences for how much airtime is eaten up by potentially 
> duplicated traffic?

Maybe someone from the IETF NOC could weigh in. I don't know whether any 
large WiFi operators are here. Do you know any? If their input is 
important, maybe we should go find some?

Lee