Re: Running code (Was: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt)

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Wed, 24 October 2018 06:47 UTC

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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
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Subject: Re: Running code (Was: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt)
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Fernando Gont wrote:

> If, when sending the bit set you get each node doing it's own thing (one 
> reduces timers, another disables the stack forever, another disables it 
> but might re-enable it when the bit is no longer set, etc.), that would 
> be an undesirable outcome. Me, I think it should be clear what to do 
> with the bit, and the exceptions (the corner cases when you might go 
> against the advice) should be spelled out.

I don't think we'll ever get to an agreement on what a device should do, 
short term. There could be some kind of BCP document, but that'd have to 
be an operational document and that would definitely require running 
code to test it out.

Also we have no working group where we can discuss it, sunset4 is no more.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se