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Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> Tue, 23 October 2018 10:45 UTC

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From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
To: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
CC: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "sthaug@nethelp.no" <sthaug@nethelp.no>, "ipv6@ietf.org" <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt
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> On 23 Oct 2018, at 00:01, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10/20/18 3:42 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> On 2018-10-20 09:37, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
>>>> Job,
>>>> On 2018-10-20 01:35, Job Snijders wrote:
>>>>> I think it would be good to have some running code before advancing this to
>>>>> IESG review and RFC publication. 
>>>> 
>>>> Why is this proposal special in that respect? This is not an IETF requirement
>>>> and despite the BCP advocating an Implementation Status section, very few drafts
>>>> do this.
>>>> 
>>>> Note, I am all for some trial implementations, but why does *this* draft
>>>> need one when so many others don't?
>>> 
>>> Whatever happened to "We believe in rough consensus and running code"?
>> 
>> It hasn't gone away, although formally it only applies for promotion
>> above "Proposed Standard" status. And I believe in it, and that's why
>> there's running code for GRASP (draft-ietf-anima-grasp-15). But for
>> something that has to go into the basic IP stack, it's not so easy to
>> prototype, and I am still not seeing why people would raise the barrier
>> for this particular minor extension rather than, say, for the extension
>> mechanism for RA flags that appears to be completely unimplemented.
> 
> +1

I think the problem is that we don't even have "rough consensus" here, yet alone "running code".

Tim

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