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RE: Running code (Was: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt)

"Manfredi (US), Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com> Thu, 25 October 2018 21:56 UTC

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From: "Manfredi (US), Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: "ipv6@ietf.org" <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Running code (Was: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt)
Thread-Topic: Running code (Was: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> 

> I think the notion of a v6ops draft
on this topic is a good one. The authors aren't going to insist on defining
a flag if there's a convincing case for an operational solution that works
without one. In the end we're after a statistical solution that stops most
useless IPv4 traffic most of the time. Because of differing host behaviours,
you can't stop all useless IPv4 traffic all of the time.

+1

Let's see if they are as opposed to the idea as RIPE NCC.

Bert

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