Re: you have running code ... I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 31 October 2018 19:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: you have running code ... I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt
To: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
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On 2018-11-01 04:53, David Farmer wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:28 PM Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-10-31 10:42, Mark Smith wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 07:28, Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Bjoern,
>>>>
>>>> It is great to see people produce running code for experimentation -
>>>> congratulations!
>>>>
>>>> Can you (or others running FreeBSD EXPERIMENTAL) share reports on how
>>>> this pans out in practise? What gaps between reality and documentation
>>>> are uncovered, or whether the patch was complete/not-complete?
>>>>
>>>> What OS vendor will go next?
>>>>
>>>
>>> IANA better allocate the bit first.
>>
>> Yes, that's an interesting chicken/egg issue since there is no
>> designated experimental/local use bit. But hard to avoid if people
>> want running code before Proposed Standard.
>>
> 
> Regardless if this document is published and any misgivings anyone has, I
> think we need to have IANA allocate the code point to this purpose NOW!  We
> asked to have running code, we now have some, it is extremely dangerous to
> have code out in the wild without some level of an official designation of
> the code point.
> 
> I'm not sure of the procedure, but for all effective purposes if we expect
> there to be more running code we had better officially designate the code
> point.

There is a procedure for requesting early allocation, and of course an allocation
can always be rescinded later. Whether there's any real practical risk is a
judgment call.

   Brian